and this is going to be used, the debt ceiling is going to be used to get cuts. mitch mcconnell has said something similar. so you have the president saying one thing, but those in the house and senate, the republican leaders, saying something completely different. >> shannon: yeah, they think this is going to be all about spending ab that's the comfort. house minority leader nancy pelosi saying hey, we're not done talking about revenue, there could be tax increases with part of this negotiation. >> and the president himself said in the midst of the fiscal cliff deal when it looked like a deal, that this does not end the tax debate, but the the republicans say, that you know, there's 80 trillion dollars in unemployment liabilities no matter what you do in taxes, that's not going to solve where the problem is, which is medicare, social security, and medicaid, entitlement reform and they gave in, they thought on raising taxes and revenue and want to focus pretty much exclusively on entitlement spending. >> jamie weinstein, it's going to be an interesting couple of